In the article ‘Are the table talks genuine?’, the question was raised: ‘Christian disingenuously ask why, if this was his real opinion, didn’t he put it in Mein Kampf or mention it in any of his public speeches?’
Actually, Hitler did do that. There is a specific passage in Mein Kampf where Hitler says Christianity a ‘spiritual terror’ that came into the far freer ancient world, and a parallel and complementing statement to this passage is present in Hitler’s Table Talk. Here I quote the original German Version (1943 Edition):
Auch das Christentum konnte sich nicht damit begnügen, seinen eigenen Altar aufzubauen, sondern mußte zwangs-läufig zur Zerstörung der heidnischen Altäre schreiten. […] Man kann sehr wohl den Einwand bringen, daß es sich bei derartigen Erscheinungen in der Weltgeschichte meist um solche spezifisch jüdischer Denkart handelt; ja, daß diese Art von Unduldsamkeit und Fanatismus geradezu jüdische Wesensart verkörpere. Dies mag tausendmal richtig sein, und man kann diese Tatsache wohl tief bedauern und mit nur allzu berechtigtem Unbehagen ihr Erscheinen in der Geschichte der Menschheit als etwas feststellen, was dieser bis dahin fremd gewesen war […] Der einzelne mag heute schmerzlich feststellen, daß in die viel freiere antike Welt mit dem Erscheinen des Christentums der erste geistige Terror gekommen ist, er wird die Tatsache aber nicht bestreiten können, daß die Welt seitdem von diesem Zwange bedrängt und beherrscht wird, und daß man Zwang nur wieder durch Zwang bricht und Terror nur mit Terror. Erst dann kann aufbauend ein neuer Zustand geschaffen werden. (Mein Kampf, 5. Kapitel Weltanschauung und Organisation. Auflage 1943, Verlag Franz Eher Nachf., G.m.b.H., München, Zentralverlag der NSDAP., Frz. Eher Nachf., G.m.b.H., München).
Translation (italics added):
Even Christianity could not be satisfied with building its own altar, but inevitably had to go to the destruction of the pagan altars. […] One can very well raise the objection that such phenomena in world history are mostly of a specifically Jewish way of thinking; yes, that this kind of intolerance and fanaticism embodied a downright Jewish nature. This may be correct a thousand times, and one can deeply regret this fact and, with all too justified discomfort, see its appearance in the history of mankind as something that had hitherto been alien to it. […] Today the individual may painfully discover that the first spiritual terror came into the much freer ancient world with the appearance of Christianity. But he will not be able to deny the fact that the world has been oppressed and dominated by this compulsion ever since, and that compulsion can only be broken by compulsion and terror by terror. Only then can a new condition be created.
We can see here Hitler says that Christianity, in destroying altars of the classical world, displayed a ‘specifically Jewish way of thinking’ (original German: spezifisch jüdischer) and ‘embodied a downright Jewish nature’ (original German: geradezu jüdische verkörpere), and asserts this as a ‘fact’ (original German: Tatsache).
And next Hitler says Christianity introduced ‘spiritual terror’ into the much freer ancient world. Again, he asserts this as a fact. The words he uses above, ‘oppressed’ and ‘compulsion’, are extremely incriminating. What is more: incriminating is, according to Hitler, that the world has been oppressed and driven by compulsion only since the advent of Christianity; before Christianity’s advent the world was far freer in the Ancient World.
Now in Adolf Hitlers Monologe im Führer-hauptquartier 1941-1944 there is a parallel and complementing statement to the one present in Mein Kampf. In the latter Hitler says: ‘Today the individual may painfully discover that the first spiritual terror came into the much freer ancient world with the appearance of Christianity’. In Adolf Hitlers Monologe we find:
‘Daß die antike Welt so schön, so heiter und unbeschwert war, erklärt sich daraus, daß sie von zwei Seuchen verschont geblieben ist: der Syphilis und dem Christentum!’ (19. 10. 1941, nachmittags).
Translation: ‘That the ancient world was so beautiful, so cheerful and carefree can be explained by the fact that it was spared from two epidemics: syphilis and Christianity!’
And regarding his speeches, in more than one speech Hitler did say Christianity destroyed the Roman Empire, and also compares Christianity with Bolshevism.
‘We know that the Jew used Christianity […] because he knew that this new religion questioned all earthly power and so it became an axe at the root of the Roman state, the state which was built on the authority of the public servant. And he [the Jew] became its chief bearer and propagator’ (Adolf Hitler, Speech, 13 August 1920, Hofbräuhaus Hall, Munich).
‘I could go back to the emergence of Christianity, to facts, according to which an idea can take hold of mankind until states finally break because of it. Closer to us is a look at the development of Marxism in Germany’ (Adolf Hitler, August 4, 1929).
‘It was only the disintegrating effect of Christianity and the symptoms of age which appear in every country that caused ancient Rome to succumb’ (Adolf Hitler, Hitler’s Meeting with the head persons of the Armed Services on November 5, 1937).
A worldview conquered a State and, starting from there, will slowly shatter the whole world and bring about its collapse. Bolshevism will, if its advance is not halted, expose the world to a transformation as complete as the one Christianity once effected (Adolf Hitler, Industry Club in Düsseldorf, January 27, 1932).
Editor’s note: Again, italics have been added by the commenter.
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Thanks for considering my comment.
I hope I can two more quotes from Hitler both the quotes are inter-related because in a quote from 27 August 1933, Hitler says Germans to unite need a new world view and 4 years later, on November 22, 1937, he says they did found a new foundation for the unity of Germans which is not Christianity but volksgemeinschaft(people’s community).
“The unity of the Germans must be secured through A NEW WELTAUSCHAWMG, since Christianity in its present form was no longer equal to the demands which were to-day made on those who would sustain the unity of the people”~ Adolf Hitler, Meeting of National Socialist leaders at Bad Godesberg on 27 August 1933
“Today a new state[National Socialist State] is being established, the unique feature of which is that it sees its foundation NOT IN CHRISTIANITY and not in a concept of state; rather, it places its primary emphasis on the self-contained VOLKSGEMEINSCHAFT.” ~ Adolf Hitler – speech at the Ordensburg Sonthofen Allgäu, November 22, 1937
You seem to know German.
I have a problem with the German edition of Hitler’s table talks: it’s incomplete.
Are you familiar with several editions of his table talks in German?
>”German edition of Hitler’s table talks: it’s incomplete.”
The reason why it is incomplete is due to the fact that some parts of the notes were in the hands of Henry Picker, and some parts were with François Genoud, so the one published by Henry Picker which is ‘ Hitlers Tischgespräche im Führerhauptquartier 1941–1942’ just contains the conversation from 1941-42.
For more clarity watch this video: https://www.bitchute.com/video/EwMDcLJ7d3dJ/
>”Are you familiar with several editions of his table talks in German?”
Is there an edition in German that is complete (I have an incomplete edition in German)?
This quote from also incriminating against Christianity.
“I want to differentiate here between the Volk, i.e. the healthy, full-blooded mass of Germany loyal to the Volk, and a decadent, so-called high society, unreliable because only conditionally linked by blood. It is sometimes casually referred to as the “upper class,” being, however, in reality no more than the scum produced by a societal mutation gone haywire from having had its blood and thinking infected by cosmopolitism.
In this period of the most inward orientation, Christian mysticism demanded an approach to the solution of structural problems and hence to an architecture whose design not only ran contrary to the spirit, of the time, but which also helped produce these mysterious dark forces which made the people increasingly willing to submit themselves to cosmopolitism.” ~ Adolf Hitler – speech at the Culture Convention Nuremberg, September 6, 1938
In short: “Christian mysticism[…] helped produce … mysterious dark forces which made the people increasingly willing to submit themselves to cosmopolitism.” ~ Adolf Hitler – speech at the Culture Convention Nuremberg, September 6, 1938
“Religions, too, have a meaning only when they serve to maintain the living substance of humanity. For when once the peoples as such perish, neither their religions nor their States remain as eternal phenomena (Ewigkeitserscheimmgen). ” ~ Adolf Hitler, closing
speech to the Nuremberg Parteitag of I935
“We live in an era of the ultimate conflict with Christianity. It is part of the mission of the SS to give the German people in the next half-century the non-Christian ideological foundations on which to lead and shape their lives. This task does not consist solely in overcoming an ideological opponent but must be accompanied at every step by a positive impetus: in this case that means the reconstruction of the Germanic heritage in the widest and most comprehensive sense.” ~ Heinrich Himmler, 1937(Reichsführer-SS, Heinrich Himmler, Bundesarchiv, Koblenz, NS 19/320), Published in Ackermann, Himmler, doc. no. 8, 253 ff.
Is it worthwhile to have the book by Ackermann? Or is it a typical “Bewältigungs“ screed of the FRG?
‘Speech about Homosexuality to the SS Group Leaders (18 February 1937)’ speech of Himmler, dated 18th February 1937.
You can read the full text here: (Replace (dot) with ‘.’)
The original German text is present in ‘Geheimreden 1933 bis 1945 und andere Ansprachen’.
Also is found here: himmlers-heinrich(dot) de/kellerwald-und-zauberberg(dot) pdf
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I will just quote few excerpts from this long speech, where Himmler rightly and perfectly describes Christianity.
“The entire substance of the priesthood and of the whole of Christianity is, I am firmly convinced, an erotic union of men (Männerbund) for the erection and maintenance of this 2000-year old Bolshevism. I reach that conclusion because I know very well the history of Christianity in Rome. I am of the conviction that the Roman emperors, who eradicated (ausrotteten) the first Christians, did exactly the same thing that we are doing with the communists. These Christians were then the worst yeast which the great city contained, the worst Jewish people, the worst Bolsheviks that there were.”~ Heinrich Himmler – Speech to the SS Group Leaders (18 February 1937)
•“National Socialism is a cool and highly-reasoned approach to reality based upon the greatest of SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE” — Adolf Hitler, speech on September 6, 1938
•“The Christian churches build upon the ignorance of man and strive to keep large portions of the people in ignorance because only in this way can the Christian churches maintain their power. On the other hand, National Socialism is based on scientific foundations.” —Martin Bormann, National Socialism and Christianity Are Incompatible (1941)
•“Führer is an enthusiastic adherent of pure science” — Joseph Goebbels, Goebbels, diary entry for May 12, 1943, in Die Tagebücher von Joseph Goebbels, ed. Elke Fröhlich, part II: Diktate 1941-1945, vol. 8: April-Juni 1943 (Munich K. G. Saur, 1993), 281.
•”In this conflict[Science vs Religion], victory will nearly always be on the side of science” — Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf.
•”What was impressive, on the contrary, was his[Adolf Hitler] idea of the future of religions.In his [Adolf Hitler] eyes, it had become useless to combat them, persecute them: the discoveries of science, dissipating the mysteries — essential for the influence of the Churches — and the progress of comfort — chasing away a misery which, for two thousand years, brought to the Church so many unfortunate beings — would, in his opinion, increasingly reduce the influence of religions. ”
— Léon Degrelle, Hitler for a Thousand Years
•Now parallel to the above quote from Léon Degrelle’s writing we find another quote from David Irving’s Hitler’s War and The War Path.
“On June 12, 1941, Hewel[Walther Hewel] noted yet another conversation with Hitler about religion. ‘One ought not to combat religion but to let it die of its own accord.’ ”
— Hitler’s War and The War Path, David Irving
•“It’s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death. A slow death has something comforting about it. The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science.” — Adolf Hitler, Table Talk.]
•After coming to power, Hitler continued to prioritize science over religion. When meeting with Cardinal Michael von Faulhaber, Hitler reminded him that the world was changing, and he thought the Catholic Church should change with it. He reminded the cardinal of the Church’s past conflicts with science over its belief in a six-day creation and the geocentric theory of the solar system. Then he told Faulhaber that the Church must abandon its opposition to Nazi racial and eugenics legislation, because such policies “rest on absolute scientific research.” Strange as it may seem to us today, Hitler saw his racial and eugenics agenda as scientific and all opposition to it as the product of benighted, outmoded religion.— (Cardinal Michael Faulhaber, “Bericht Faulhabers über eine Unterredung mit Hitler,” November 4 –5, 1936, in Akten Kardinal Michael von Faulhabers, 1917–1945, vol. 2: 1935–1945, ed. Ludwig Volk (Mainz: Matthias-Grünewald, 1978), 2:187.)
“Christian doctrine has been responsible for the destruction of every nation. A religion which
(a) sees women as sinful,
(b) marriage as the lesser evil—it is at least better than the alternative, such teaching is in the long run absolutely liable to bring every nation to the grave.”
Heinrich Himmler, Speech in Alt-Rehse (1938)
Bundesarchiv, Abt. Berlin, NS 19/4005,Josef Ackermann, Heinrich Himmler als Ideologe (Gottingen, etc., 1970), 88 ff.
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Christianity is a inherently dysgenic and anti nature, nature promotes the survival of the fittest, the most adaptable, competent and strongest, it condemn the weakest and less adaptable to death or extinction. The key christian precept , the “last shall be the first” is the key christian axiological foundation of our modern world. Modern civilization promotes the survival of the weak, the scum and the two legged biotrash, it is fundamentally opposed to the selection of the strongest , most intelligent, most beautiful and noble, it is opposed to any aristocratic racial selection. This is the end result of “Blessed are the meek, last shall be the first”, our ethics should be transvalued to “Blessed are the most beautiful, strongest, most noble, most intelligent, for they will inherit the earth, cursed are the weak and ugly, for they shall become extinct, death shall be their rightful end” and ” the first shall be the first, the last shall become even more last.” This is similar to Ragnar Redbeard Beatitudes:
“Blessed are the Strong for they shall possess the earth Cursed are the Weak for they shall inherit the yoke.
Blessed are the Powerful for they shall be reverenced among men – Cursed are the feeble for they shall be blotted out.
Blessed are the Bold for they shall be masters of the world – Cursed are the Humble for they shall be trodden under hoofs.
Blessed are the Victorious for victory is the basis of Right – Cursed are the Vanquished for they shall be vassals for ever.
Blessed are the battle-blooded, Beauty shall smile upon them – Cursed are the Poor-in-Spirit, they shall be spat upon.
Blessed are the Audacious for they have imbibed true wisdom – Cursed are the Obedient for they shall breed Creeplings.
Blessed are the iron handed, the unfit shall flee before them – Cursed are the haters of battle, subjugation is their portion.
Blessed are the Death defiant, their days shall be long in the land – Cursed are the feeble brained, for they shall perish amidst plenty.
Blessed are destroyers of false hope, they are true Messiahs – Cursed are the God-adorers, they shall be as shorn sheep.
Blessed are the Valiant, for they shall obtain great treasure – Cursed are the believers in Good and Evil, for they are frightened by shadows.
Blessed are they who believe in Nothing – never shall it terrorize their minds – Cursed are the ‘lambs of God’, they shall be bled ‘whiter than snow’.
Blessed is the man who hath powerful enemies, they shall make him a hero – Cursed is he who “doeth good” unto others, he shall be despised.
Blessed the man whose foot is swift to serve a friend, he is a friend indeed – Cursed are the organizers of Charities, they are propagators of plagues.
Blessed are the Wise and Brave, for in the Struggle they shall win – Cursed are the unfit for they shall be righteously exterminated.
Blessed are the sires of Noble Maidens, they are the salt of the earth – Cursed the mothers of strumous Tenderlings, for they shall be shamed.
Blessed are the mighty-minded for they shall ride the whirl-winds – Cursed are they who teach Lies for Truth, and Truth for Lies, for they are abomination.
Blessed are the unmerciful, their posterity shall own the world – Cursed are the pitiful for they shall receive no pity.
Blessed are the destroyers of idols, for they shall be feared by tyrants – Cursed are the famous Wiselings, their seed shall perish off the earth. Thrice cursed are the Vile for they shall serve and suffer.”
>”Is there an edition in German that is complete (I have an incomplete edition in German)?”
Monologues at Hitler’s headquarters from 1941 to 1944.
PDF of the Jochmann version in german.
I’ll now check it with other versions and let you know…
I have just checked it against the English translation that is available on the internet. Indeed: the PDF that you kindly linked is more complete than the hardcover book I have in German.
What struck me is that the numbering in the English translation differs from the numbering in the PDF. And that apparently is due to the fact that the translation separates two table talks if one was in the afternoon and the other in the evening.
In other words, the translation contains more talks than the original, which presumably counts only one talk per day. But that’s just the impression that I got at first glance. The translation will have to be reviewed line by line with the PDF (something that can be done with DeepL Traductor)!