The essay I promised this morning is now available as a PDF. I don’t need to explain anything further than what I said in my previous post this Sunday.
Monday update:
I just checked the document with a grammar and syntax checker and corrected the errors, deleting the previous version.
Thursday update:
I would like to copy and paste here what I told Benjamin in the comments section:
Regarding euthanising people like Marco, I’m all for sending him to Aktion T4 immediately!
In my late sister’s case, it’s the opposite. The Japanese of centuries past had a method for treating their mentally ill that I like: keeping them at home, albeit in a separate compartment (wealthy Japanese, in a small house separated by a garden, just as I was fortunately separated from my other sister, a neurotic, who, unlike the late one, lacks empathy).
As for pure Aryans, I would try to do something for the mentally ill if they take the initiative to get better. For example, someone like Marco, even if he were Aryan, should be euthanised because he believes himself to be perfect without blemish. You cannot take “God” to therapy!
Someone who had a crisis like you is the opposite case. You made a great effort to understand schizogenic parents and to heal…
On the other hand, I don’t believe irredeemable people like chronic narcissists, sociopaths or serial killers should exist. Kill‘em all.
I have an Aryan cousin, mentioned in my trilogy, who has cerebral palsy. Of course, she should have been euthanised as a baby.
Many psychotics have a chance of recovery, as long as they have a high IQ and don’t suffer from NPD (here, the prognosis is very poor because people like Marco literally think they’re God—see the cartoon of the two-headed monster I included in my PDF).
It’s not that Marco suffered so much as a child; it’s that his mentally-retarded mother prevented his individuation process. Sam Vaknin uses the metaphor of a ruined house, like in archaeological Sumer, for example. That ruined mind has no walls of ego: the mother destroyed the psychological walls of the abused toddler.
Richard Grannon says that someone like Marco can only recover if he makes an effort and goes to therapy (say, like the Ross Institute, but for people with NPDs, something that doesn’t exist in the world yet). If there were a pure Aryan with Marco’s condition, he would have to be committed to a Soteria House that doesn’t yet exist, where other Aryans with NPDs would be treated by the Fourth Reich. But we’re just fantasising, since only a wealthy Reich that adopts the trauma model could afford it…
The problem is that since those with NPDs believe they are perfect, they would have to be institutionalised by force. But unlike psychiatry, there would be no psychiatric drugs or electroshock, just something similar to what the 19th-century Quakers did with the mentally ill (cf. Robert Whitaker’s Mad in America), but with our understanding of the trauma model.
What I meant by the anecdote about the president’s children (cf. the PDF) at my house is that Marco was vehemently demanding I abandon that elegant mansion (!) for a half-built house with no roof (!) in a hellish Mexican neighbourhood. He was furious when I didn’t follow his (God’s) advice.
I wonder if visitors see why Marco’s malignant narcissistic condition is in the same category, according to both Richard Grannon and Sam Vaknin, as serial killers? It’s in the constellation of the most horrific forms of psychosis. That’s why I wrote what I wrote in the PDF about Hitchcock’s Psycho regarding Marco’s internal dynamics with his dead mother…
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It was precisely last week that Marco showed me the altar with a crucifix and votive candles in his awful house. I didn’t take a picture because when I travel to that area, I don’t dare carry my cell phone in my pocket.
For those who read the PDF, I’ll gladly answer any questions you may have about this guy.
“I didn’t take a picture because when I travel to that area, I don’t dare carry my cell phone in my pocket.”
Is it because the area is so crime ridden?
Yes.
Just to give a public opportunity to mull over some of the ideas we previously discussed, I’ll reiterate a few personal query segments from my chat to you earlier. A mixture of observations, anecdotes, and questions on Marco, et al.
I had meant to ask you, where do you stand on exterminating this calibre of mental patient? I was wondering if there was any overlap with Adunai’s perspective (in as much as he has an opinion and is not just trolling). Personally, as you know, I’d like autists (well… my experience of them on the right wing at least) wiped out physically (as I find them detestably inhuman; too much of an interpersonal liability – very much as if we have raised ‘machines’ in that sense, or as close to a dead machine as one could make someone). I could be wrong on that. I am already aware though that they think the same of me (despite everything I’ve written recently that they will never in a million years review in toto open-mindedly). So I’m not totally against Hitler’s Aktion T4 ideas.
If patients are chronic – and also harmful to others, as Marco is – would forced euthanasia be too much of me to suggest also? I feel the same way on ‘conventionally’ disabled people; cerebral palsy types and the like, albeit painlessly at birth (even beyond considering that their subjective quality of life is really low, they’re a huge nihilistic drain on everyone else).
Generally, I think the huge difference is that schizophrenic patients can heal if given the proper supportive guidance over opening up, and then just left the hell alone to take the initiative to (if they can), free of the medical world (and toxic people/situations). Obviously that certainly applies to lesser, neurosis-based cases, such as depressives, etc.
I’m not sure, would talking about early life experiences help/heal/deprogram NPD psychosis cases? I mean, you can certainly patiently (I’ve got recent research on this – I think the 2024 book’s titled Recovery from Schizophrenia: Evidence, History and Hope by Courtenay Harding), laboriously so, talk someone out of regular psychosis face-to-face (over a few weeks/months depending on severity) provided you say the right things, listen, and are sympathetic.
My sympathy for Marco extends only as far as, 1. I can see he was deadly spoilt very early on by his overbearing mother, 2. He doesn’t seem able to help his atrocious personality/having no empathy. It seems too late for him by this point in his life though. You’d have to have the ‘patience of a saint’ to psychologically deprogram all this bullshit out of him (and he’d fight you every step of the way). I gather from the document that his mother dying might have been the final straw that flipped him over the edge (you say you were not in contact for some considerable years), much as he was even a neurotic shit back in the early chess days. You do say that there’s no realistic chance of recovery in this case. Again, if you could trauma-counsel these cruel, heavily dispassionate, animal-hating, child-hating autists ‘out of it’ in a Fourth Reich Soteria House equivalent, disregard the above termination desire altogether – it’s not intended personally.
I’d be interested to see if anyone has had any professional success therapeutically addressing other malignant narcissists/egomaniacs (therapy taken loosely in either a professional or a lay sense, i.e. a guiding witness, as, as we know, it’s not as if the actual profession of psychotherapy is ultimately useful and not terribly, terrible re-victimising). I get the idea they’re hardly ever spotted/referred to ‘mental health’ services. For example, in my own limited capacity of experience, I used to always rage long-term that my mental health team never once have spotted my partner’s neurotic covert narcissism – much as realistically I have to be very glad for this logically, as I know they’d destroy her and tear her apart if they ever did get their talons on her, standard industry practice, as with everyone else. I have a lot of sympathy for her (perhaps too much for my own good at times).
I was kind of ‘fishing for a positive conclusion’ last night when talking to her. Teach me to be so presumptive! She was in the background when I was doing all my video recordings, and was – she had no choice given our room size – passively listening for most of it. I turned to her and said ‘hey, you know, I think I’m quite good at discussing these topics – I feel I know more than my present psychiatrist about psychiatry by now… she did 4 biased and blinkered years of official study in a classroom, and I’ve been reading official textbooks on the topic pan-spectrum in my own time regularly for over two decades. What do you think; who knows more?’
My girlfriend simply replied, sincerely (classic obtuse lack of empathy): ‘if you know all this stuff, why don’t you just become a [biomedical] psychiatrist?’
What a silly question, I thought. I didn’t bother to explain why I’d never in a million years consider that.
Regarding euthanising people like Marco, I’m all for sending him to Aktion T4 immediately!
In my late sister’s case, it’s the opposite. The Japanese of centuries past had a method for treating their mentally ill that I like: keeping them at home, albeit in a separate compartment (wealthy Japanese, in a small house separated by a garden, just as I was fortunately separated from my other sister, a neurotic, who, unlike the late one, lacks empathy).
As for pure Aryans, I would try to do something for the mentally ill if they take the initiative to get better. For example, someone like Marco, even if he were Aryan, should be euthanised because he believes himself to be perfect without blemish.
Someone who had a crisis like you is the opposite case. Like me—who also suffered a mental breakdown because I fell into a cult—, you made a great effort to understand schizogenic parents and to heal…
On the other hand, I don’t believe irredeemable people like chronic narcissists, sociopaths or serial killers should exist. Kill‘em all.
I have an Aryan cousin, mentioned in my trilogy, who has cerebral palsy. Of course, she should have been euthanised as a baby.
Many psychotics have a chance of recovery, as long as they have a high IQ and don’t suffer from NPD (here, the prognosis is very poor because people like Marco literally think they’re God—see the cartoon of the two-headed monster I included in my PDF).
It’s not that Marco suffered so much as a child; it’s that his mentally-retarded mother prevented his individuation process. Sam Vaknin uses the metaphor of a ruined house, like in archaeological Sumer, for example. That ruined mind has no walls of ego: the mother destroyed the psychological walls of the toddler.
Richard Grannon says that someone like Marco can only recover if he makes an effort and goes to therapy (say, like the Ross Institute of Psychological Trauma, but for people with NPDs, something that doesn’t exist in the world yet). If there were a pure Aryan with Marco’s condition, he would have to be committed to a Soteria House that doesn’t yet exist, where other Aryans with NPDs would be treated by the Fourth Reich. But we’re just fantasising, since only a wealthy Reich that adopts the trauma model could afford it…
The problem is that since those with NPDs believe they are perfect, they would have to be institutionalised by force. But unlike psychiatry, there would be no psychiatric drugs or ECT, etc., just something similar to what the 19th-century Quakers did with the mentally ill, but with our understanding of the trauma model.
What I meant by the anecdote about the president’s children (cf. the PDF) at my house is that Marco was vehemently demanding I abandon that elegant mansion (!) for a half-built house with no roof (!) in a hellish neighbourhood. He was furious when I didn’t follow his (God’s) advice.
I wonder if visitors see why Marco’s malignant narcissistic condition is in the same category, according to both Richard Grannon and Sam Vaknin, as serial killers? It’s in the constellation of the most horrific forms of psychosis. That’s why I wrote what I wrote in the PDF about Hitchcock’s Psycho regarding Marco’s internal dynamics with his dead mother…