Jack vs. Kevin

Roman Empire did not fail because of any racial reason or genetics. I learned from professors, that Roman civilization declined gradually due to a combination of factors. One theory that was given, is that Romans became very wealthy, but also decadent and lazy because of the wealth. Moral qualities of the Roman elite declined, infighting and government corruption weakened the ability of the Roman army to defend the Roman Empire’s borders. Another explanation was that as the Roman Army declined, the birthrate among Romans fell. Barbarian tribes such as a Goths, Vandals and Huns in the 4th century had a much higher birthrate. These barbarian tribes poured through the borders and corrupt Roman officials initially allowed them to pass through. But again … these largely Germanic barbarians did not cause the final collapse of Roman civilization. In fact, Goths and various other Germans tried to preserve the Roman culture and civilization later on. The final blow to Roman civilization was dealt by … Islam. Dr. Bill Warner proved to a number of white nationalists that Islam caused the final and complete downfall of Classical Roman Civilization. There was the Eastern Roman Empire, which under Justinian and Belisarius reclaimed Italy and Spain. Many Germanic Frankish and Gothic Kingdoms preserved much of Roman culture. It were the Muslims under Khalid Ibn Al Walid, Caliphs Omar and Osman and Muawiya which destroyed much of Roman civilization in Syria, Egypt and Cyrenaica. It was the Muslims who destroyed many of the most advanced Germanic barbarian tribes such as Goths, Vandals and partially Franks. Ever since 711-732, there was a constant threat of Islamic invasion of Italy and France. Muslims were able to defeat many Roman and Gothic armies primarily due to religious zealotry and huge numbers. Islam basically exploded violently in the 7th and 8th centuries and in a short period of time was able to cut, slaughter and conquer from Battle of Yarmouk in Syria against Romans in 636 to the conquest of Gothic Spain in 711.

Dr. Pierce lived in America and due to the physical limitations imposed upon dissident print media at the time, he wrote for Americans as well. Why this makes him a “patriotard” is beyond me. Maybe he wasn’t a Canadian with an inferiority complex directed at his southern racial neighbors?

Yeah, you did.

“Individualism, universalism, weak ethnocentrism (“hardwired” characteristics in the White psyche since prehistoric times) + egalitarianism, liberalism, capitalism (cultural “software” after the Revolution which ironically strengthened Christian axiology) + the Jewish culture of critique in the 20th century = a truly lethal brew for the White peoples.”

“Capitalism” and “Christianity” are terms that are simply too broad in scope to have any significance in helping to understand the decline of the West. Joe Sobran’s analogy of the Hive seems more apt because although you have people who embrace very different ideas — the various isms we can cite — they all seem to work toward the same goal, and in harmony.

To answer your question, though, no, I’ve not posted here before or under any other name. I have been following the White Nationalist movement for some time, and probably know more about its recent history than most. I first stumbled onto William Pierce as a college Freshman — this was about a year before he died — and though I didn’t take to his message, I thought his broadcasts were too intelligent and interesting to ignore. At the time I was still a die-hard American patriot, so his support of Nazi Germany rubbed me the wrong way, but he did captivate me enough for me to listen to every broadcast he did, read both his books, and I even began posting some of his flyers across the university campus. (They were promptly torn down.) National Alliance also started a news broadcast with Victor [I don’t remember his last name] and I began corresponding with him and helped him write some of the commentary. After William Pierce died I lost interest in the Alliance. Billy Roper wasn’t an effective replacement or leader, and though I did listen to Kevin Strom’s broadcasts, they are were noticeably inferior to Pierce’s.

Linder’s VNN was picking up steam at this time, and I wrote an article or two for his website, but it quickly went downhill after he lost funding from his rich mega-donor, and he and Bill White imploded over the shopwhite website. Initially, Bill White showed some promise, but he was infected with too much megalomania, made some bad decisions, started an outfit of worthless costume Nazis, and ended up in prison. (Yes, he was setup and railroaded just like Matt Hale.) That’s the problem in the United States. If you start an organization, and it begins to show signs of success, then you’re immediately infested with federal informants, and the government is going to try to set you up, even if the charges are bogus.

I’m sure I’ve read at least 90% of the literature the White Nationalist movement considers to be Holy Writ. I read Kemp’s History of the White Race when it was just a website you could read for free in simple html. format. Also Griffin’s bio on Pierce Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds; Ben Klassen’s books, Revilo Oliver’s etc.

I don’t think White Nationalism or any movement that seeks to protect the interests of Whites has a future in the United States. The legal and cultural environment is simply to hostile. That’s why I’m interested in trying to expand the ideas of White Nationalism outside of traditionally White nations — the United States and Europe — and into Latin America. Whites in Latin America may have a keener sense of racial reality, and may not be as dispossessed politically. But your comments seem to suggest otherwise, so maybe we’re doomed.

I did read a few articles about Argentina and most of the people — about 90% — identify as white, and the rest as either mestizo or some other race. So it seems Argentina does have at least a modicum of white consciousness and, I believe, that even its immigration policy favors Italian and other European immigrants. I’ve not been there, so I don’t have any direct experience, but it seems the so-called Mediterranean peoples are not quite as beaten down as the Anglo-Nordic nations. Also, a recent news article stated that northern Italians are refusing to accept any more migrants. I doubt you would ever hear this from a Swede or Anglo.

I am always curious why so many White Nationalists think that the only thing that will save us is an economic catastrophe. If Whites cannot be racially conscious in good times, then how are they going to be racially conscious in bad times? There is no reason the government would become more anti-White, and I’m sure that our government has so many contingency plans in place that it will be able to maintain some kind of control even while America’s economic ship sinks. The wealthy in America are already insulating themselves from the rest of us, and if millions of Whites suddenly fall on hard times, then they are going to look to the wealthy, to the plutocrats who run the country, for a way out, and not to someone who’s rallying for White power.

I don’t doubt that the 90% figure is too high, but let’s not throw our hands up in despair and write off Latin America completely. Even if Argentina is only 50% white, of even less, then that is still millions of whites worth saving.

I remember listening to William Pierce on the eve of America’s invasion of Afghanistan and he pointed out that White nationalists should be concerned because there are still pockets of White people (Aryans) living in Afghanistan. So if William Pierce is concerned about America’s bombers obliterating Whites in Afghanistan, then surely we can be concerned about Latin America.