interview – 7
It couldn’t be clearer. Joel Webbon says that, although he acknowledges the racial factor, Christianity is the priority (“Christ first”). And he asks Nick Fuentes if he agrees with putting religion above the racial issue, which Fuentes accepts.
Shortly after, Webbon recounts the anecdote of Indian migrants in his Texan town sharing a public pool with his family. He had to explain to his daughter that even though they aren’t white, we should love them, and that their gods are evil.
Look at this inversion of values. Given that the gods of Hinduism were conceived by the Aryan conquerors before these guys mixed with the indigenous people, it could be said that there are still vestiges of the Aryan collective unconscious in present-day Hinduism, even though the original Brahmins (Aryans without a drop of Indian blood) are now extinct. That cannot be said of Judeo-Christianity, created by Semites. (Personally, I would consider the Greco-Roman pantheon as our legitimate Gods and the god of the Jews as an alien archetype.)
When this pair later discusses abortion, they both endorse the Christian doctrine on the sanctity of human life, without distinguishing in the slightest between an Aryan baby and a niglet.
Do you see why the Führer’s path is the only path? For National Socialists abortion was legal and moral for non-Aryans in Germany.
7 replies on “Webbon’s”
..excellent! You are correct that our natural religion was the Roman-Greek pagan pantheon. Let judeo-christianity collapse, but immediately the “old tyme” religions should be substituted, as there is no vacuum in religious beliefs….one religion must substitute one for the other!
The christian structures (churches, priests, schools, books, holidays, etc.), can be substituted with Roman pagan again, as the infrastructure is in place, as are the worshippers/adherents. Marcus Aurelius’ magnum opus (Meditations) is a perfect substute for the Latin Vulgate Bible and other literature!
“I would consider the Greco-Roman pantheon as our legitimate Gods”
what about Nordic Gods?
Most christian holidays are older ones that had jesus added. It’ll be easy keeping the holidays but just adding the original gods. Nazi Germany did alot of practical work for how this works, alot was published on it even then
Personally, though I have no difficulty tolerating polytheism as a harmless historical-cultural expression of the Aryan race (and easier to put to most people), and do see the merit of it being reinstated, and probably in the manner the National Socialists did, would you still see room within that for a kind of holistic conceptualisation of the universe that remains sacred also in and of itself, in line with what I suppose I could describe as an impersonal (or non-miraculous) pagan henotheism?
I think since becoming an apostate from Christianity, I have fallen too far in the atheistic direction to make a strict, classically theistic return to devoting piety to an anthropomorphic (still, I’d argue, anthropocentric to some degree) pantheon, which feels naïve to me somehow, akin to neo-paganism. I’d wonder if, in our secular, Post-Christian world, it may be too difficult to rekindle belief in the gods in any sense at a pan-Aryan level for the same reason I have difficulty.
I feel closer to the Romantic idea of panentheism when accounting for the splendour of the irreducible physical world and its natural laws in totality (not just ‘nature worship’ in a folkish sense), coupled to a ‘Promethean’ – maybe I mean ‘Faustian’ also – paganism that presents the possibility to by heroic struggle become the super-man. This is where I do think the idea of gods is useful: to be beside the gods hierarchically by this becoming, but not literally the God (or however one would see Nature), which seems to transgress Vedic dharma. I can’t accept biological fatalism or predestination, but I think the idea of heroic destiny makes sense distinct from that, given the above.
I struggle to find some of these ideas in pure polytheism, which seems to me an earlier example of pagan thinking than what it may have been developing into from some quarters, had not Christianity got in the way for so long. Provided the Greco-Roman Master values we discuss are adhered to, do you see any possibility of Temples or libraries being devoted to this sort of position, or any point promoting it further among the citizens? Sorry, I’m not sure if I’ve phrased this coherently.
Belief in the existence of the Greco-Roman Gods is unnecessary. Have you read the passage of The Fair Race I recently sent you?:
The author is a Spaniard called Manu.
Thank you for refreshing me. I haven’t got around to reading it yet, no (it’s next on my list, and I’d decided to re-read How to Murder Your Child’s Soul first).
I think these ideas I mentioned are fresh in my mind as I’ve just finished reading Alain de Benoist’s On Being A Pagan, which does acknowledge the theistic side (and which I have problems with as a piece of writing, independent of that), although acknowledges Greek philosophical, Nietzschean and pantheist thought also. Anyway, I put my reservations with all that by email.
I remember that passage above now from a post you wrote (I think it was called ‘Temples’) some months back. I’m glad the re-establishment of sacred remembrance spaces is still on the table. If we – anyone, not just us personally – come into suitable money in the future, we should definitely consider the construction of at least one modest Temple on our own land.