by Gaedhal
I don’t celebrate Saint Patrick’s day, as, in my view, the imposition of Christianity upon Ireland was a disaster. He was the first invader, making the valleys flat and the mountains plain, and the highways straight for the invaders that would follow in his train. Indeed, Christianity is the worst NGO in Ireland when it comes to facilitating the Plantation, the Great Replacement.
For Christianity to be true, we must believe—in all seriousness—that God commenced his revelation to mankind by slicing up both animal carcasses and baby penises. Abraham slices up some animal carcasses, and claims that he saw Yahweh, a Canaanite storm god, walking through the midst of these animals sawn assunder. That is some wild stuff! Abraham then began to slice up his own and Isaac’s penis, before then almost sacrificing Isaac to Yahweh at Jehovah-jirah. It is a tragedy that this desert cult was imposed upon Ireland.
Christianity is pure bullshit—and I mean this in the philosophical sense. There is no science or logic or scholarship that supports even one of its supernatural claims. Indeed most of its mundane claims—the Bible, even the Old Testament, is mostly pure fiction and mythology, even the so-called “Historical Books”—has been disproved by Science and Philosophy and Historiography.
That someone could write something like this in a national journal, indeed, the premier national journal, The Irish Times, just goes to show how insular and backwards Ireland is:
There are those who would rather see us return to a superstitious, undeducated pre-Christian era of druids and magic, rather than the science logic and scholarship of Christianity, with its sophisticated and systematic philosophy and theology.
As Captain Cassidy McGillicuddy, my fellow Irishperson, puts it: she is still in the early naughties keyboard warrior age. She is twenty years behind the times. Atheism soundly won the internet keyboard wars in the late nineties and early two thousands. Maria Steen seems still to labour under the misapprehension that there are sensible reasons for Christianity! She must have not spent a lot of time on the internet. Christianity came there to die, and did die, and is buried in a Sadducee’s grave, whence no resurrection, a long time ago. This is why apologists rarely talk to us! If they talk to us, at all, then it must be in the setting of a “formal debate” where they can Gish-gallop for about half-an-hour uninterrupted, and then they can employ stalling techniques at the questioning session. Apologists have siloed themselves away from atheist critiques a long time ago. So much for “systematic theology” which is nought but a post-hoc system of lies that is geared so as to blend and synthesise the multiple contradictory philosophies and theologies of the Bible into a single lying religious system.
Steen assures us that, today, she will countenance Popish worship and engage in a cannibalism ritual and ingest the body, blood and bones of a long-dead—if he ever even existed at all—failed Jewish apocalyptic prophet… because that is sensible. This is exactly the sort of sense that we need in an Irish President (which is why I am relieved that the office of Irish Presidency seems to be firmly post-Catholic and firmly post-Christian).
That this lunatic was almost a candidate for the Southern Irish presidency just goes to show how insular and backwards Ireland is. On the British mainland, “they don’t do god”, which is actually why I prefer to be over there.
6 replies on “St Patrick”
Captain Cassidy touches upon the Great Keyboard wars that occurred between Christians and atheists on the internet in the late 1990s and early 2000s in this piece. Maria Steen seems blissfully unaware that Christianity lost this polemical war… about twenty years ago… but political and religious thought is at least 20 years behind on Craggy Island, (i.e. Ireland).
I was dismayed last year by a discussion I had on The Occidental Observer (TOO) with a Christian commentator. He tried to refute our point of view using typical fundamentalist apologetics (one of the names he mentioned was Gary Habermas, chair of the theology department at Liberty University).
What shocked me was his willful ignorance of fundamental issues, such as the fact that no serious New Testament scholar currently believes in, say, biblical inerrancy.
The Christian apologist’s stance in TOO commentariat is typical of the average Christian on the American racial right. That’s why I want to create a Syssitia where racists have left all Judaic traces behind.
Thank you gaedhal, I was pleased by your article, particularly the line ‘Christianity is pure bullshit’.
I am sorry to say I was not so contented by the article authored by Captain Cassidy, much as I agreed with the sentiment of it (it certainly doesn’t render the Christian apologist’s slimy position sensical), and just wished these atheists had not felt obliged to rely on the spuriousness of M-Theory, dark matter, and Daniel Dennett (the first two points firmly discouraged by a reading of Roger Penrose’s Fashion, Faith, and Fantasy in the New Physics of the Universe, or just various modified gravity theories compatible with relativity, and the latter academic notorious in the consciousness research community for either denying the hard problem of consciousness, or eliminating the presence of consciousness altogether, depending how one looks at it) , or to reduce the evolution of consciousness to the writings of John Eccles (whom I do still read with some fascination, despite being wrong in his neurophysiology) without considering the counterpoint positions to this, such as those of Peter Godfrey-Smith, Philip Goff and Galen Strawson, or even the ‘biopsychists’ of the likes of Ernst Haeckel and that school of thought. I was surprised to see a discussion on order and chaos that did not mention the physicist Ilya Prigogine.
There was just this feeling she could have done a bit better, put a bit more genuine thought/passion into her rebuttal examples
Do you personally think there is a trend among atheists of this calibre (so, most atheists then) to pick the colder, if trendier options? The more mechanical, deterministic, or reductionistic choices? The equivalent of the ‘heat death’ theory and the like, or the writings of Eugene Thacker or David Benatar? I just never see them select for their examples anything that hints at vitality, wonder, or biological optimism. There is nothing numinous, somehow, and thus it feels cheap. I personally don’t go as far as vitalism (in the Hans Dreisch sense) but that sort of complex Romantic quality to research into naturalism/natural philosophy goes a long way.
Yes, I binge-read practically everything that Captain Cassidy has ever written. However, these days, I find it a bit repetitive. A problem is that Counter-apologetics itself can become very repetitive. 11 years ago when I deconverted, Counter-apologetics wasd the most mentally stimulating thing in my life. Now I am tired of it.
‘bullshit’ is a philosophical term. Harry Frankfurt wrote a philosophical essay: On Bullshit. Bullshit is different to lies. With Lies, the intention is to lie, and the victims are genuinely deceived about the points lied about. However, with bullshit truth and falsehood are irrelevant: the bullshit-artist will say whatever comes to hand to enhance whatever it is he is selling. Also, his audience isn’t really deceived. The comforting narrative spun by the con-artist is just what they would rather believe. Similarly with Christianity. A moment’s consideration, and a single google search is enough to tell anyone with an average IQ, say 100, that Christianity is false. However, Christianity is just what they would rather believe. At some level, the apologist con-artist and his victims know that Christianity is false, but that they would rather believe it anyway. This is why apologetics only works on Christians, on the already deceived. It generally has no effect on convincing non-Christians that Christianity is true.
When I first deconverted, I was surprised at all of the ferocity wherewith counter-apologists they criticise William Lane Craig. I believed, at first, that Craig was sincere, and that he was merely the other side of the argument. However, studying Craig’s tactics, I now believe that much of this ferocity is/was warranted. ‘William Lane Craig’s Duplicitous Denial That Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence’ is just one of the many relevent articles written by Richard Carrier upon this subject, and it links, in its turn, to other relevant articles and videos upon this topic. Maria Steen seems to be blissfully unaware that the arguments made for Christianity by the likes of Craig are ridiculous at best, and intellectually dishonest at worst. David Quinn, another Conservative Catholic talking head, and Iona Institute-ist recently quoted Catholic New York Times Columnist, Ross Douthat, seemingly unaware that Richard Carrier tore him a proverbial new one with ‘Ross Douthat’s Worst Argument for God’. Ireland, a backwards island on the Continental Shelf, is an echo-chamber anyway, however the likes of David Quinn and Maria Steen seem to be in an echo chamber within an echo chamber. All of their talking points are about 20 years, at least, out of date. However, living in Ireland, people rarely if ever point this out to them. In the linked Irish Times piece, Maria Steen seems to take seriously the myth that Saint Patrick dispelled the snakes from Ireland. Saint Patrick, like Jesus, is, at best, a legendary character like Robin Hood, or a totally mythical one like Hercules. That such a piece, by Steen could be published as an opinion piece, in Ireland’s premier National Newspaper just goes to show how intellectually in arrears Ireland is.
They are the dishonest people par excellence.