Yesterday I tried to communicate with a Groyper on “X” but it was useless.
These people don’t read, as Greg Johnson complained.
They fail to understand that the mere bravado of guru Nick Fuentes is certainly good, but it lacks the depth of thought that William Pierce on this side of the Atlantic, or Savitri Devi on the other, possessed.
I told this Groyper that Nick had recently said that his Christian scruples prevented him from expelling the millions of non-whites who have come to the US in recent decades. Fuentes added that white Americans now have to adapt to that reality. I told the Groyper that such scruples didn’t appear in Pierce’s novel, and the guy (who could be half a century younger than me) replied that it was an academic discussion. Then he spoke rudely, and I cut him off for good.
It’s not an academic matter, but rather what I’ve said several times about our friend Joseph Walsh, who is now serving a seven-year sentence in the UK for thought crime. Walsh told me privately that all white people, including racialists, are committing suicide.
Why? Recall Walsh’s words in the featured article, “1945 was the year of the total inversion of Aryan values into Christian values.”
The point is that before 1945, white people were capable of exterminating entire populations of inferior humans, as they did in Cuba, Tasmania, and as the Germans planned to do in the Master Plan East. The aftermath of that fateful year represented a psychotic regression toward the purest evangelical message: a folie en mass of the Aryan collective unconscious, leading them to love every wingless biped (a psychological affliction even Fuentes suffers from).
These callow Groypers are incapable of engaging in a simple discussion on the matter because, like some teenagers, they are too arrogant. They think they can reinvent the wheel. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: Without an ethnostate, even with several Groyper dictators in the US over the course of a century, the white race would become extinct because miscegenation is inevitable.
Walsh was right: All white people commit suicide, even racialists with very rare exceptions (those we call priests of the sacred words). In short, a devout Christian—and the Groypers are Christians—will never be capable of ethnic cleansing, as the Gods command. Unlike the Nazis, a Groyper obeys the commandment to love one’s “neighbour”: a commandment of the god of the Jews who wants to exterminate him.
Ultimately, a Groyper will still be a loser even if he becomes President of the US.
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The problem with these groypers is they’re total ‘newfags’. The kind of people that would be told ‘lurk 2 years before posting’. A lot of these kids come into this sphere via X or other social media. Unlike people like us, who’ve been involved for 15, 20 or more years. They lack ideological depth, and as you mention, they think they can re-invent the wheel. We’ve seen maybe hundreds of personalities and groups come and go over the decades.
While it’s important to get young people into the boat, there is an unfortunate disconnect to the past and they’re bound to repeat the same mistakes. I think many of them lack a comprehensive, all-encompassing ‘Weltanschauung’. Which is to be expected in a rootless, ephemeral world of digital media. Few of them even read books. Fuentes didn’t come up with a single book recommendation when asked. Their thinking is entirely shallow and when questions of ethics come up, they fall back on milktoast Xt nonsense. Unfortunately, this situation is not conducive to a ‘transvaluation’. These types aren’t breaking out of the cycle.
But I’m still hopeful that with enough pushback against these ‘tradcaths’ the overton window can shift farther, so that anti-Abrahamic (there needs to be a catchier word for this) talking points can gain more traction.
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Interpolated note of the Ed: "tradcath" means Traditionalist Catholicism.Look what this disrespectful brat just said to me on X:
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With stupid, beardless youths who don’t respect e.g., Pierce or Savitri, we’re not going to get anywhere.
Herr Cesar, there is little to accomplish with these kids because they are as infantile as their American parents.
That’s why Charlie Kirk (Fuentes predecesor) was only able to “debate” with university students from the USA, but he was humiliated the moment he truly debated with students from the UK, who even called him fool and with the morality of a child. These are pretty much children.
They need a iron fist leadership more than education or debates. A dictator the caliber of Hitler and also the brutality of Stalin, and that’s just to keep them in check.
I think that even if the Groypers were better educated and better read that they would still resist The Wall as you say. Think about Larry Auster. Imagine trying to convince a devout Christian like Auster (although Jewish by birth) of the merits of William Luther Pierce or Savitri Devi. He would be totally closed to such an argument.
Christianity closes the mind to any meaningful White Nationalism. Psychologically, I can’t see how you can get from a Jewish Prophet of a Jewish God and a universalist moral code to White racial particularism and the ruthlessness to enforce it.
So true!
Christian values are “Aryan” values. It was so readily adopted by our people precisely because it matches our spiritual identity. Traditional Christians throughout the history of Christendom would not have tolerated the horrors we see in modern Christendom (the “West”) today. The Crusaders certainly didn’t. If you are to claim that what we see today from the modern corrupted “Christian” culture of the west are inherently “Christian values” then you could just as easily claim that they are inherently “White values.” Your antagonism and rejection of Christianity seems to stem from another source…
Additionally, whatever tolerance there was of foreigners in European lands by Christians historically pales in comparison to the influx of foreigners brought into Europe by the pagan Roman Empire before the rise of Christendom. Modern Italians didn’t just become brown after Rome became Christian. That was a long time in the making.
There were strong reasons for why the jews fought so hard against the early Christians, aiding the Roman Empire of the time in their persecution.
(I also dont think Fuentes said he’s against expelling the millions of non-whites who have come to the US in recent decades and you must be embellishing or misrepresenting his statement in some sense. Like, his whole thing is about expelling them. Your general antagonism against Christians really reeks of seething and seems to have something else behind it generally.)
Fuentes did say that ethnic cleansing is now anachronistic because there are millions of non-whites in the US, so the ethnostate is no longer feasible. Sorry that I cannot provide a specific link, as I have listened to dozens of Nick clips recently.
At any event, Christians wrote the story you’re advertising above. When you read non-Christian racialists, things change dramatically.
I understand your point of view because I believed in the existence of Jesus for many decades. But do you understand ours? I’d suggest starting with the masthead of this site.