In the penultimate podcast of the Manifest Destiny Series in Volkish site, ‘Show 101: She’s Back’ (I already said something about Show #100 and have yet to listen to #102) the participants talk, once again, about my favourite author: Savitri Devi. I was pleased that they mentioned Counter-Currents (CC) in a derogatory way because only Hitler saves, not the bourgeois racialists on this side of the Atlantic.
After Carolyn Yeager fell ill and discontinued her National Socialist sympathetic podcasts, Manifest Destiny is the only NS podcast I know of. It is curious that the bourgeois Greg Johnson, the editor-in-chief of CC who is also the custodian of the Savitri archive, has published Savitri Devi’s Gold in the Furnace. Curious, I say, because his ‘racialist’ ideology is at the very antipodes of Savitri’s.
In podcast 101, I was surprised that a few seconds before the 28th minute Jake (was it him?) mentioned my ‘four words’ in the sense of avoiding unnecessary suffering of the victims executed in the so-called holocaust. I didn’t expect that! (Himmler himself forbade unnecessary cruelty in his ethnic cleansing campaigns). Also, unlike Carolyn and the commenters who used to comment on her website, those at Manifest Destiny are aware of the Christian Problem and what we have called here the Christian inversion of Aryan values.
Incidentally, I just modified a couple of tags: Jewish Question (JQ) is now called Jewish Problem (JP), and Christian Question (CQ) is now called Christian Problem (CP).
There was something that pleased me after the first hour of discussion: the beautiful is the good and true, an idea that dates back to Socrates. Like David Lane, I cannot conceive of how to save the Aryan race without the cult of the beauty of their physiques, which is why I have insisted so much on images of English roses on this site.
At around 1:35 the participants spoke about something I consider fundamental. They used the word ‘duty’ as a quality of overmen. Savitri had already spoken of this in the first chapter of her Memoirs when she coined the phrase ‘the religion of the strong’. Duty is something that naturally radiates from a personality that, to use Jungian language, has already touched the ‘Self’ with its ego. There is hardly anyone like this in the world today, true National Socialists; it seems that in the Second World War they were all killed.
Before 1:40 one of the participants mentioned that Savitri said that National Socialism would eventually be reborn in Germany. When I see the resounding failure of American white nationalism, so incapable of breaking away from bourgeois and Christian values, it seems to me that this woman might be right.
We shall see what happens now that European leaders, including the German Chancellor, are beating the war drums to start a hotter war against Russia. To continue relentlessly with such strident rhetoric will only end with Berlin, Paris and London under well-deserved nuclear mushrooms. One thing is certain: with or without nuclear war it is a win-win situation for us! A territorial bite at eastern Ukraine when Russia wins, even without a nuclear exchange, will destroy NATO and the European Union…
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Scott Ritter said this today about the astronomical imbecility and suicidal passion of le petit roi and tutti quanti who are beating their war drums without realising the consequences!
Can you finally see why, faced with such levels of insanity, we have no choice but to read Little Lulu?
Cesar,
What are your thoughts on American Dissident Voices from National Vanguard (National Alliance)? Along with this site, they were one of three that were recommended by the guys over at Volkish/Manifest Destiny (the other being Renegade Tribune). Incidentally, that is how I became aware of your work in the first place.
Hi M. Williams,
Forgive my great ignorance but I have only heard a few of these ‘voices’ you speak of (you mean Kevin Alfred Strom, right?).
On this site I copied and pasted some texts by Strom about the creation of a new religion for whites, since Strom used images from the German NS.
But I don’t know his thinking well, except that he is what I call a type A bicausalist and I am a type B. The fundamental difference of my site with anti-Christians Strom and Linder is that for me white betrayal is much more serious than Jewish subversion. I don’t know of another forum on the internet that blames the Christian Problem more than the JP!
As for Renegade Tribune, correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t it on that site where I read a completely psychotic article blaming Jews for human sacrifice in pre-Columbian Mesoamerica?
Yep, that’s right. American Dissident Voices is the regular podcast/broadcast that Strom does. He did an interesting three part series back in April called “Month of the Leader” you may enjoy.
In regards to the A vs B bi-causalism, I take your point. And you are probably correct; I cannot think of another website that puts the Christian Problem/Question at the forefront. Not that it doesn’t crop up frequently, but never as the primary focus.
If you’re at all interested, I believe Arthur Kemp’s history of the white race (March of the Titans) takes Christianity to task in much the same way Pierce’s Who We Are does. Also, Jost Turner focused heavily on Christianity and its negative aspects; he was a brilliant writer, but not well known.
As for Renegade Tribune, you could be correct. I don’t follow them, not through any fault of their own, I just don’t have time.
I read the Kemp book you mention and even posted excerpts here. But I hadn’t heard of Jost Turner. Does he have a website (or can you link to one of his texts)?
Joseph “Jost” Turner was an interesting dude. He was a Vietnam vet who founded the National Socialist Kindred after leaving the Asatru Free Assembly (the predecessor to the Asatru Folk Assembly) after Steve McNallen declared that Nazis were not welcome in the AFA (it should be noted, however, that contrary to what you’ll read on the internet, McNallen and Turner remained on friendly terms and there was no bad blood, as far as I know).
Jost practiced a form of Kundalini Yoga as well as worshipped the Norse Gods, but, religious and spiritual beliefs aside, he had a very clear and thoughtful conception of National Socialism, and was probably one of the most interesting NS theorists to emerge in post-1945 America.
He put together pamphlets and engaged in a lot of outreach to prisoners, and was on pretty good terms with the National Alliance. He eventually folded up the NS Kindred after a group of neo-nazis ruined the relations between the Kindred and the local community. After that he kept distributing pamphlets and devoted his time to teaching his own school of Yoga (“Arya Kriya”) before he died from a heart attack in the mid 90s.
Here’s a link that should include most of his pamphlets; it’s incomplete at the moment, and some of them need formatting, but there’s a good amount of material there.
https://archive.org/details/@muttwilliams
Thanks! One of the texts, ‘What Is National Socialism’ that I read in the link you posted says:
It reminds me of the burden that the white man supposedly has to carry about the other races: a concept of Christian inspiration.
In reality, whites shouldn’t lead other races, only wish that they cease to exist on the planet. That’s why I like the dialogues of the film about Reinhard Heydrich, which I will be uploading in my next entries.
Cheers!
Thanks Cesar. One last thing about Jost: his conception of NS was definitely different from Pierce’s, or Rockwell’s, at least in one significant regard, which you previously noted; there was no Imperium, and no cleansing. He elaborates on this at the greatest length in his essay “Proper Aryan Behavior Towards Non-Aryans”, where he again calls for Aryans to lead non-Aryans along their own evolutionary path towards their own fullest potential.
Additionally, he also rejects a lot of The Turner Diaries message, though that is more on the grounds of his general skepticism towards any armed revolution. He suggests in his essay “Revolutionary Fantasies” that any serious revolutionary would be better off studying Mao and Che since they actually accomplished their revolutionary goals.
All that being said, while he had his Christian priors (I believe he was raised Baptist), I wouldn’t say that Jost was influenced by Christianity in his beliefs, I’d guess that came from his studies of Eastern religions and spirituality, as well as his own wartime experiences. He had killed a number of men during his tour of duty, and was generally disdainful of people who advocated violence. That doesn’t make him wrong or right, but it does explain where he was coming from.
On the whole, I generally encourage people to read and digest what Jost had to say. He was a practical person with real life experience, walked the walk as well as talked the talk, and was very thoughtful in his writings. That being said, he was obviously fallible, but the discerning eye can find what good he has to offer and apply it to themselves.