This is my response
to J. Varlaan in yesterday’s thread:
Oh man, I must be with you and others like us in the aftermaths of the days of the rope! This is why I believe that white nationalist Christians are obsolete animals. Unlike Pierce, Covington and Linder, white nationalist Christians don’t harbor this sort of fantasies. These nice guys are incapable of indulging themselves in hate because their fucking religion, especially the Protestant branch, forbids them such sentiment.
Seriously man, my big dream is to mark the end the Christian Era that is killing us by exposing, for a hundred years, thousands upon thousands of crucified white traitors along the roads from Paris to Berlin and from Washington to Atlanta. So, speaking of the future, the rotten corpses on the crosses that were killed long ago in the revolutionary days would produce the visual shock that the white race so desperately needs.
That’s why I lean much closer toward Pierce’s seminal novel than to Covington’s quintet. The fanaticism required in the white psyche to survive the darkest hour must go far beyond Dave Duke’s bullshit YouTube propaganda of being fair to non-white peoples and their shitty cultures. Instead of the gospel, the coming overman must find inspiration in Thus spake Zarathustra and in The Turner Diaries.
If conquering the world for the race is the ultimate objective, one must first crucify the most notorious members of wickedest generation of history, and give the strong message to the survivors that Constantine’s abolition of the crucifixion practice in the year 337, out of veneration of a Galilean, is over.
Let the diamond speak!
36 replies on “Crucify them!”
In a world full of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, people will not respond favourably to talk of global war and bloody revenge. They are right to hold back. Yes, there are armies of white traitors. That’s because the other side’s propaganda has always been cleverer than ours. “Truth and Reconciliation” is an excellent example of the other side’s cleverness. It really is the best policy for any victorious faction. We don’t even need to conquer the world, only to reconquer the white world.
I disagree. Energy devolution will kill billions in this century and whites must take advantage of that opportunity to conquer the whole American continent and more. (Just imagine that the Yellowstone caldron explodes in a hundred years and wipes out the new white republic; whites will need more than NorthAm to be sure of their survival.)
To anyone reading this: It can happen, the Qin dynasty (221 BC–206 BC) successfully introduced the ideology of legalism and then burned all the unclean books and literature and under the Ming dynasty (1368–1644) all foreign religions including Christianity and Islam where removed from China.
The Chinese are still there, they still have the same basic racial profile, they have this because purges of unchinese content and thought have happened several times in there history.
We are on the same path, we need to copy and even transcend these two deeds, we need to remove every piece of culture from Europe that is not racially-clean and racially-moral, we need to burn books, drive out the foreigners and their religion and beat down on those colored area’s of the map where Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Voodoo and Hinduism thrive to make sure they know who is there master.
Nobody says to be white you have to pick up an old black lady, torture here and rape here, that is not who we are, we simply want the colored person gone from our continent and they can work along and then everything will go smoothly, they will be send back to Africa or Latin America, or they can resist and then it’s a quick bullet.
Those white people who betrayed us will not be given the bullet, they need to be punished, in a way that will make it clear for a hundred generations, that you will feel sorry when destiny catches up to you. Chechar says they should be crucified, I agree, all our problems started with Christianity, let use end it with Christian symbolism.
Happiness and strength to every pure one,
Using Christian symbolism in a grotesque manner against enemies will just strengthen Christian beliefs in the minds of those already brainwashed with Christianity.
Yes, Christianity is an enemy of our race, but using their symbols just makes their religion and beliefs look more important, not less.
You are just afraid of doing the right thing, you don’t like the idea of death and punishment, so you try to say: don’t be strong and just, because the weak and unjust might become more fanatic and think themselves more important. Maybe you need to wash your own mind with some extra strong dignity.
I dunno, I think I’m on Kurt’s side. Fuck Christian symbolism, let’s just render them into bars of soap.
Fine, then let’s just crucify the traitors upon wooden Swastikas.
My idea, in all seriousness, is to crucify them in classical Roman crosses, and only if they kiss the swastika they would be spared from the long torture. I got this idea precisely from the way the Inquisition handled the kikes in the city where I was born (and where I still live). Unrepented Jews were forced to kiss the cross or being burned alive.
Chechar, there’s only one problem with your fixation on Christianity as being the root cause of White people’s problems and that is: Christianity is a spent force everywhere *except* the USA.
Christianity has very little power amongst the major powers in Europe. It has next to no power in Australasia or Asia.
Christianity does seem to have influence in Russia and formerly Soviet states. That influence has been to the positive for White people.
The only place it does have any sort of power is in the USA. The form that Christianity takes in the USA is vastly different to any of the traditional, orthodox, forms of Christianity.
As Bowden puts it:
And, finally, an insight that I agree with 100%:
Australia is run by liberals in the Bowden sense: they are all, to a man, woman and hybrid, cultural-marxists. They hate Catholicism with a vengeance. A vengeance far greater than yours I might add. They hate Catholicism, even in its pathetic current form, so much that they are ramming Muslims down our throats as fast as they can. And I’m not talking White muslims.
So, in conclusion: your hatreds have made you blind to reality. If you weren’t so motivated by an emotional reflex becoming harder and harder you would see that what afflicts White people is an inability to simply unite over all our differences and see that we have far more in common.
Perhaps your Mexican experience is the cause of what I see as delusion. I understand that South American forms of Catholicism have very little in common to that prior to the Catholics being assaulted by your cultural-marxists. I see that Antipope Francis is a complete heretic.
Your thoughts here remind me of President Calles:
Get over it Chechar. Hitler did.
Hitler saw correctly that America, even then, was niggerised and jewified. He left out, a mutant form of Protestantised.
Hitler’s greatest error in my opinion was thinking that the British, specifically English political elite, would ever unite along race lines, or, at the very least remain neutral as Ireland did.
We all make mistakes, even the best of us. Quite often it’s due to what our emotions *want* to see, clouding the reality of the situation.
Christianity today is almost dead in the water. I repeat Bowden’s classification:
I would say that contemporary Catholicism is rather like the Protestantism of yesteryear, and Protestantism has become liberalism, and liberalism has morphed, strangely, without the Protestantism that gave it a moral compass, into a form of cultural Marxism, and that’s what we have now.
You are forgetting that Calles’ evil deeds have nothing to do with Hitler, who considered Christianity as the greatest catastrophe that fell upon the white race.
Calles was a gangster without scruples, and his grudges against Catholicism probably had to do with the fact that he was of Lebanese extraction. During the Cristero Wars he even was called “El Turco” (the Turk) by the Mexicans.
This is my entry in my blog in Spanish about this monster:
Hitler, who considered Christianity as the greatest catastrophe that fell upon the white race.
I don’t believe, from my reading on the matter, that that statement is true with regard Hitler’s thoughts on the subject. It certainly isn’t reflected in his practice.
How to understand someone like Leon Degrelle then, leader of the Walloon contingent of the Waffen SS?
There were certainly anti-Christian leaders like Himmler (whose thoughts I think you are repeating here, not Hitler’s). But, you also need to remember that both Catholics and Protestants, specifically Lutherans supported the National Socialists. They fought for, and died for, Germany and for White Europe as De Grelle articulated.
Those Germans and Russians who suffered the “hellstorm” of Jewish lead genocide were in the vast majority Christians. Their Churches were desecrated, bombed into rubble, and their people raped and murdered.
Yet you and your readers want what remains to be turned into bars of soap (a Jewish lie used against us).
The Anglo-Americans hated any nationalism, especially one that posed a threat to their markets. The Jews played on that fact since they hated, and still hate, Christians with a pure spite.
What I see here in your comments is more Judeo-American insanity. I pray that we can come out from under this infectious madness.
“Judeo-American insanity”? In which sense?
Judeo-American insanity is precisely what motivates Heimbach to say that he hates Hitler; or what motivated Parrott to say that he thought Covington was crazy some time ago; or what scares the shit out of the nice WNsts when they learn of Pierce’s genocidal passion (I never used the soap analogy). It is no coincidence that those commenters who recently bashed National Socialism at Occidental Dissent are vehement Christians. And don’t you remember Alice [Something], that American Christian woman who commented a lot at TOO and said that she sided her country against Germany? Even those Germans who tried to murder Hitler were of Christian extraction, right?
But all this is peripheral. The real issue, and that’s why I am adding excerpts of Vidal’s novel, is that if some “pagan” cultures had been allowed to thrive, present-day suicidal liberalism (which IMHO is an offshoot of Christian axiology) wouldn’t have any grip on those white nations that would have been formed outside Christianity.
Yes, I know and remember most of that. As I pointed out initially, and have been writing about for a decade at least: they are all American.
As Bowden points out, American Christianity is like no other Christianity. It is Judeo-Christian. It is some mad, weird, mutant virus mostly born of pure narcissism in my opinion.
Don’t let those freaks cloud your judgement when it comes to Christianity, that is historic, traditional, orthodox Christianity. I am not even asking you to defend Christianity. I’m asking you to understand it better.
Your Yanks above and elsewhere who hate, hate, hate (as Whiskey always puts it) Christianity, or those who love, love, love Christianity are all infected with the Jew.
Here’s a practical exercise: watch Le Tour de France. Not for cycling but the countryside, the villages, the Cathedrals, the architecture and the history. Note all those Notre Dames with their little villages huddled about them. Note the “Christianity” that held these people together and made them great.
Your Yanks want to plunder it all again just like they did in WWII because they are malicious weasels with not a care for culture, class, or humility.
Go and visit Germany and see all the rebuilt Cathedrals, compare the before and after photos.
You will see that the freak show that is Judeo-American Christianity bears no resemblance to that Christianity.
You are flogging a dead horse with your denunciations of Christianity, in the broader worldwide and historical sense. Be particular instead. It is the Juden-Yank Christianity that needs to be destroyed, along with the kikes they so dearly love. But, remember: the great majority of Americans, whether Christian or not, still bear the historically ingrained virus of a hatred of Western culture and civilisation that their particular strain of Cromwellian Protestantism bequeathed them, solidified under a century of Jewish blind hatred.
You’re wrong about Russia.
“Russia ranks as one of the least devout countries on earth, with only 33 percent of Russians saying religion was very important in their daily life in 2009:
Roughly 80 to 90 percent of Russians identify as Orthodox Christians, but almost none attend services even monthly. Instead, in a 2007 (Russian) poll on the subject, the majority of respondents said religion for them was a “national tradition” and “an adherence to moral and ethical standards,” while only 16 percent said it was about personal salvation.”
In other words, they’re Christians In Name Only, just like the American Christians you denounce. Russians don’t believe that Jewish hogwash and their political attitudes are not the result of any such belief.
Blake, I said:
Christianity does seem to have influence in Russia and formerly Soviet states.
Note the word “seem”. I wasn’t hanging my entire argument on the point, matter of fact I was conceding there might be some truth to Chechar’s argument.
Thanks for proving my point then (I’ll accept you as the authority on the subject for the sake of my argument):
In other words, they’re Christians In Name Only Therefore, Christianity is weak throughout Europe, Russia and the former Soviet states.
You are ignorant about Hitler’s views on Christianity and like most Christ trash and its apologists, you twist the facts to fit your sick worldview.
For starters, I suggest you check out “Confronting the Nazi War on Christianity. The Kulturkampf Newsletters, 1936-1939” edited by Richard Bonney.
I’d also suggest reading pamphlets such as this one:
and this one:
Furthermore, let’s take a look at some of the most prominent Nazis, shall we?
– Pagan, anti-Christian.
– Atheist, anti-Christian.
– Pagan, anti-Christian.
Richard Walther Darré (SS-Obergruppenführer, Reich Minister of Food and Agriculture, leading Blut und Boden ideologist)
– Pagan, anti-Christian.
– Pagan, anti-Christian.
– In his own words at Nuremberg, “not exactly what you’d call a church-going person.”
Hanns Kerrl (Reich Minister for Church Affairs)
– Went on record in the late 1930s declaring that “Jesus was not the Son of God and such a belief is irrelevant.” And this was the guy Hitler appointed to handle Church matters!
Walter Gross (Head of the Office of Racial Policy)
– Pagan, ant-Christian.
Hans F. K. Günther (Chief Nazi Racial theorist)
– Pagan, anti-Christian.
Robert Ley (leader of the Labor Front)
Baldur von Schirach (first Chief of the Hitler Youth)
– Pagan, anti-Christian.
Artur Axmann (second Chief of the Hitler Youth)
– Atheist/Pagan, anti-Christian.
That’s just the tip of the iceberg. Am I supposed to believe that Hitler appointed all these anti-Christian people to positions of power and included many of them in his inner circle if he harbored some secret affection for Christianity? Are you going to tell me that he was unaware about their beliefs on the matter? Or that he could find no qualified German Christians for these jobs? C’mon, only, well…a Christian would be dumb enough to believe that.
The obvious and more simple answer is…Hitler shared their views on the Christian question, and selected them for these positions for precisely that reason. And if you actually do some real research, you’ll find that the Reich did take many actions to weaken the influence of the Church and prepare for its demise.
Thanks for the info, Blake. Most of it was news for me.
Blake, that’s a lot of good info and reasoning that makes clear that the German Leader and his high-level helpers were anti-Christian.
I downloaded the PDF at your above link (link) and searched for the word “christ”, getting this gem:
“The Christians, above all the Roman Church, reject the race idea with the citation ‘before God all men are equal.’ All who have the Christian belief, whether Jews, bush niggers, or whites are dearer to them and more worthwhile than a German who does not confess Christianity.” …
“Now why do we find in Free Masonry, Marxism, and the Christian church this mistaken teaching of the equality of all men? All three are striving more or less for power over the whole earth. Therefore, they must necessarily be ‘international.’ They can never acknowledge the human ties of race, community, or nation if they do not wish to give up their own aims.”
No, Blake, I don’t believe I am ignorant of Hitler’s views on the subject.
With regard the rest of your list, (again, for the sake of argument, I’ll accept your claims as authoritative), do you see a rather glaring problem?
I’ll give you a hint: who was going to fight the wars these anti-Christians wanted to fight? Who *did* fight the wars and suffered the brutal occupation as a result, the wars these anti-Christians wanted to fight?
I’ll even answer it for you: Christians.
And if you actually do some real research, you’ll find that the Reich did take many actions to weaken the influence of the Church and prepare for its demise.
Then it seems they achieved what they set out to achieve. Germany conquered, half occupied by Stalinist atheists, the other jewified and niggerised by the Yanks, German and Russian Churches and religion in ruins.
I see where you, Chechar, and co are heading with this. You are proving my point. You don’t care about the White race so much as you hate Christianity. You would prefer a non-White world so long as Christianity is destroyed. You are a typical Judeo-American. You think the world wants to be just like you, is just like you, and, if it isn’t, you’ll damn well set about ensuring that it becomes like you.
My message to you Judeo-American snakes is: fuck off back home and keep it there.
You want to save the White man? Then crush your government and make it pull out of the rest of the world. It is your nation and people who are the cause of all the White world’s problems. If you really cared you’d do something about it instead of perverting our cause with your rabid anti-Christian droolings.
You are in big, big error here.
You see: during my counter-jihad stage I even deleted a couple of entries in my blog in Spanish critical of Christianity.
Because in those times I swallowed the Judeo-Christian POV in the counter-jihad movement and believed that, even as a non-believer, in times of trouble I should leave my personal issues with Christianity aside.
But then came this Conservative Swede and posted those stunning posts at Gates of Vienna. He opened the door to a much wider point of view that, eventually, made me to give up both counter-jihadism and monocausalism and, with the help of Sunic and others, moved me to develop this attack on my parents’ religion as a way to better understand the problem than what single Jewish causers do.
Who are you talking to? I am neither Jew nor American.
I disagree with this assessment. If Bowden’s explanation was sufficient then the neoconservative movement would have been a huge success. Millennial fanaticism? Check. Zionist militarism? Check. American exceptionalism flying in the face of European finger-wagging? Check. Cromwellian impetus to “bring democracy to the world”? Check.
Neoconservatism was a huge flop though. It was going strong for about 5 years, then it just fell back into mush. American conservatives still think much more highly of Reagan than Bush II. Moderates and liberals hate him. “Neocon” has become a half-slur.
So what happened? The defining feature of the modern American is near-sightedness and a lack of idealism. What Molberg called “hypercalvinism” is a spent force in its own way. American casualties in Iraq weren’t even 1/7 the casualties sustained in the Korean War, but Americans were still crying to leave. Their willingness to bomb other countries without justification isn’t part of some jingoistic craziness, but rather the American’s complete disregard for anything that doesn’t affect him personally (and immediately). If “terrorists” inflicted 1/10 the casualties on America that we inflict on other countries in the Middle East the American people would demand their own unconditional surrender.
That’s what makes it funny! I didn’t mean that Christians as such should be sent to the soap-camps, though.
That isn’t necessarily true. The caste-affirming Hinduism of India became miscegenating Buddhism without any major Semitic contact. The tribe-affirming paganism of the Latini became a cesspool of cults and rituals from all across Europe, Northern Africa, and Western Asia, unified only by the sprawling multiracial empire’s head of state (as Pontifex Maximas).
The upper-class Christian reactionaries who tried to assassinate Hitler were American?
Is the average European Christian pro-Hitler? Does the average European Christian even believe that supporting Hitler while being a Good Christian is possible? Does the average European Christian believe that Christian doctrine permits the exclusion of foreign immigrants on the basis of race, or the expulsion of resident “citizens” on racial grounds?
Americans are more a part of “Western Civilization” than Europeans are. They’re the epitome of rationalist humanism: free from the prejudices of race, tribe, homeland, history, sex, creed, sexual orientation, marital status, and so forth, Americans can now pursue their rational utilitarian Equally Human desire to eat sugar and masturbate and watch television.
They won, they’re at the end of the rainbow and if there’s no gold then that’s the rainbow’s fault. Rationalist humanism doesn’t go any further than the Kwa, except in Huxley’s novel.
Christianity is not dead. In the recent Golden Dawn article I quoted the fact that it was precisely the Orthodox Christian archbishop the one who dared to criticize this most popular movement of liberation in Europe. Also, may I remind you that the Catholic Church is for open boarders in the Mexico/USA frontier?
The current issue of the monthly Catholic booklet Almas (“Souls”) that my mother receives, which she gave to me as a gift and is in front of me btw, every month features a most common image on its cover. This July it features an Iberian white priest surrounded by negroes and niglets in Africa: “Cincuenta años de sacerdocio misionero” (“Fifty years of missionary priesthood”).
I could mention many other examples of current suicidal practices coming from a horse that is pretty much alive but the message is already clear in Stubb’s response above: one of our enemies is Judeo-Christianity in general, not just the Yank interpretation of it.
I want to quickly point out to everyone here that the European Union is not a organization dominated by the left, but by Christian-Democrats. The biggest European ”party” by far is the European People’s Party, which is a center-right, christian-democratic platform, that usually works together with the Party of European Socialists.
The claim made by some people that Christianity is dying, weak or has no influence is a simple lie. Large parts of Europe are strongly Christians, large parts of Europe are not, but the ones calling the shots behind the scene are and always will be Christians.
Christians have money, influence, positions within industry and media, a large following, they usually work together with the left, they viciously promote multiculturalism and race-mixing and most importantly they made you belief they have no power and influence.
An afterthought: A large part of immigration isn’t only supported by the left, but also by the christian. Just like most muslims and other barbarian groups vote for labour, many africans and other barbarian groups are strongly christian.
When I look at the dozens of evangelical churches popping up in the Netherlands I usually see a mixture of blacks and the lowest kind of whites. The christian just like the leftists imports foreign groups to augment its own position and it does so, successfully.
Not only is the christian and the leftist very similar in there approach to barbarians, but they literally need each other and the left needs the christian, more than the christian needs the left, because the left is basically a christian heresy that threw away the bible and God, but kept the worse and most criminal of its beliefs.
Just like leftism is a political belief system, christianity is a political belief system. It is not enough to think of christianity as a religion, when we think of christianity as a political system, we realize that the only difference between christianity and the left are trivial emphasizes on economic system and family structure, both groups are pro-race-mixing.
But the left flows out of christianity, without the christian element within society, the left has no basis for its moral ideology and would go extinct, or turn into a religion itself.
Very well said. Your comment is so good that I even dared to fix a little your syntax (for “it’s” I replaced “its”; for “then”, “than”, and for “believes”, “beliefs”).
As I told Stubbs the other day, have you read the article that I have linked the most in my blogging career? It is a rather long read but worth of reading.
That the author is a Swede suggest that European Nordics like you also are pretty more conscious than your American colleagues as to the extent of the damage caused by Christianity for the white peoples. As John Martínez has said in this blog, it will take a truly major catastrophe for whites to peel off the poison of this Abrahamic religion.
I even venture to say that the fact that I have gotten no substantial comments in my posts quoting Vidal’s novel on Julian means that most white nationalists are still very prejudiced against an all-out attack on the Abrahamic poison that has been weakening the West.
Chechar, you say:
In my own case, I simply don’t read fiction. Thus, other than reading at most a few sentences of all your recently quoted passages of Gore-Vidal’s novel about Julian, I read almost none of it and thus didn’t comment, even though I am very much against Christianity.
Other of your readers may also avoid reading fiction, and that may be why you had so few comments on that material.
Actually, I’ll use your above words as the next Quotable Quote for WDH…
Please, you are free to fix any grammatical errors I make, my English is sloppy, so i don’t mind.
I have read the article and the Swede speaks my mind, I think it happened to me last year when a discussion in my class happened about the nature of marriage and I was of the opinion that marriage should be about having children and raising a family and that people who don’t stay monogamous have weak characters.
The attacks i received by these ”tolerant” liberal classmates was severe, a woman started shouting at me saying I want to ban all abortions (I never mentioned abortion) and another student went to the headmaster and demanded I be removed from the class.
I then realized that I life in a society controlled by religious zealots, that I life in communist Russia or Orwell’s 1984 and that I am a sane person, amongst lunatics.
For a moment i researched Christianity and Conservatism, because I thought I didn’t want to be a part of these empty Hedonists and I am not sure when my break began after those few months.
But I think it is either seeing a Christian church filling up with blacks, or the fact that I was getting so sick of whore’s, moralists, cowards and the complete emptiness of the Christian religion.
Slowly I read my way towards racial literature, slowly I stopped believing in Good and Evil, I only belief in beauty and ugliness and in sanity and madness.
I know from out of my spirit, that there is no God outside the world, that the universe itself is sacred, I know that the only afterlife I will have is being reborn in some distant future and I know that I belief in blood, both my race-blood and spilling of blood to clean the earth.
I belief blood cleanses, the blood of animals and the blood of the wicked and my own blood.
I belief one day there will be men, they will be like Gods, walk amongst the stars and call no man master.
I belief in beauty, in conquest, in new land and I want to burn the wicked, not convert them and I feel free, for the first time in my life, saying this openly to myself, I feel free.
But you and I are in agreement that the current Roman Catholic Church is heretical, and opposed to White nations. That still does not make it powerful enough to determine Judeo-America’s immigration laws, nor anyone else’s laws.
Those laws are maintained by cultural-marxists and Jews.
But, you go right on ahead there Chechar and tilt at your windmills.
Golden Dawn welcomes Greek Orthodox Christianity, regardless of what Archbishop Ieronymos II says about immigration etc.
They’d be mad not to, don’t you think? After all, the majority of White Greeks have an affinity with that Church. Thank God they don’t do as you suggest otherwise they’d still be going nowhere.
As for your mother’s church pamphlets I couldn’t give a rat’s arse. What, has your mother got you under siege? Certainly seems like she has mentally.
Americans are the problem. Not Christianity. If American race patriots have determined that Christianity, as it is in America, is the cause of the problem then let them sort it out. It has nothing to do with the rest of the world.
Be particular Chechar and co. Don’t generalise outward onto the rest of us what is endemic with you. Such a practice is definitive of what it means to be Judeo-American and it is that practice you need to stop.
I have never said that Christianity is the single etiology, and you know it. If you read Kemp’s and Pierce’s books you’ll see that the problem started centuries before Christianity took over (which doesn’t mean that our parents’ religion is totally innocent, because it shares part of the blaming).
Like Alex Linder, I believe that the commenter “Silver”, who comments on several sites, is a fake WNst. Here’s what he said today at OD:
In other words, let’s kill the Nazi officers condemned at Nuremberg by the Allies but never dare to touch the hair of a leftist white traitor who sold his soul to SPLC.
“Moral high ground”? Of whose morality?