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Greg Johnson vs. Tanstaafl


On doctors and quack docs


“If whites have no responsibility
for their own actions then you’ve
reduced their moral agency
to zero.” —Jack Frost

A monocausal white nationalist has iteratively accused me of “making excuses for the jews” and still worse: he has raised questions that I could probably “be a crypto-jew.”

The charge is so crazy that I would like to respond by means of a personal vignette.

A few months ago I caught an extremely nasty flu. So nasty in fact that my doctor mandated some X-ray photographs checking up for sinusitis (never in my life I had been asked to do radiographs for the symptoms of a flu).

The diagnosis of my doctor was a common viral flu complicated by a secondary infection of streptococcus, a bacteria. While my body’s immune system took charge of the viruses after a week or so, the doc’s treatment focused in killing off the bacteria through fair doses of a pretty strong antibiotic. That is to say: although the primary etiology of my disease was viral, what was knocking me out was a secondary, bacterial infection; and the whole purpose of the antibiotic treatment was to kill every single bacterial pathogen that was irritating my throat so intensely.

Now imagine that another physician, a “monocausal” quack that disbelieves the existence of viruses as the primary etiology of complicated flus, declared that my doctor is “making excuses for the bacteria” even though his treatment meant a “final solution” to the streptococcus problem. Still worse: imagine that the quack doctor imagines that my family’s physician may be a bug himself because that’s the only way the quack can conceive that our physician is unwilling to blame the bacteria as the single cause for the disease!

Silly and crazy as it may seem, that’s exactly how this monocausal nationalist reasons about me. The fact that I postulate the existence of a primary, viral infection of white decline is enough to consider me a bacterial bug! It doesn’t matter the least bit that I promote final solutions to the bacteria or kike problem (see: here) as the way to regain our health. The sole postulating the existence of flu viruses as the primary etiology is enough for this man to see the physician that mandates killing the bacteria as a bacteria himself!

Isn’t it incredible how silly single-causers can be?

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Update of September 2014

Good grief! The “quack doc” (Tanstaafl or simply Tan) is now calling me “parasite-apologist Chechar”. I don’t even want to link here where he wrote that to avoid further paranoia from him. Suffice it to say that it is on a comment thread at his blogsite, Age of Treason, on the 3rd of this month.

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Update of February 2015

Tan is now saying: “You’re [Franklin Ryckaert] pushing Chechar’s psychoanalytic ‘monocausalism’ meme, basically another name for “anti-semitism”. Fuck off.

Just for the record, it’s the second time this guy insults Ryckaert for not subscribing the quack hypothesis (elsewhere he called him “piece of shit”).

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Update of May 2015:

Today, a fan of Tan’s blog stated: “The Occidental Observer blog is just another blog that promotes the jewish strategy that whites are to blame for their own extinction,” and also mentioned my name (source: comments section on the article “Fear and Loathing and Treason – Part 2”).

Greg Johnson joins the discussion at Tan’s blog:

I would like to offer a counter-accusation: simple-mindedness or monomania or oversimplification. I think it is more important for Tan to simply “accuse the Jews” in this little corner of the internet than to actually fix the Jewish problem, which requires, first of all, that we fully understand it.

Johnson also said:

The “you just want to blame everything on the Jews” meme comes from observing people like Tan and Helvena. It names a perverse and irrational mindset — based on the arguments given on this site — that seeks to reduce the causes of white decline to (1) Jewish aggression and (2) white treason, and labels attempts to explain white susceptibility to Jewish subversion as intellectually dishonest, chiefly as an attempt to exculpate Jews and blame whites. There are two main false premises here:

1. The idea that either Jews or whites but not both are the cause of our problems

2. The idea that explaining psychological mechanisms for behavior is the same as the blame/exculpation game

This sort of monomania is irrational because it is based on faulty reasoning and probably some psychological naivete. It is perverse because it actually weakens our team and strengthens the enemy.

Later Johnson also said:

The inconsistency you spot is in Tan’s position, since he in the same thread will argue as if “It is either whites or Jews but not both” and then grant that some whites do work against our ethnic interests, but then claims they are merely traitors working for the Jews. The real position he wants to argue, but does not state clearly, is that: “There are no whites who are in good faith — i.e., because they think it is the right thing to do — working against the genetic interests of our people.” That proposition is false.

And later:

What is missing or wrong here is that I see reason to believe that the white predicament can be explained fully by: (1) Jews, (2) white traitors working for the Jews, and now (3) sincere whites who believe in a Jew-defined, Jew-centric morality. All roads lead to the Jews with you.

But don’t you wonder what is it about whites that make us susceptible to this? Your answer to that question, in one form or another, is simply to repeat: Jewish subversion. But the question remains, what makes us susceptible?

And later:

Tan, I have chosen to overlook your insults and increasingly emotive and obnoxious tone, because I think there is a real issue here worth discussing, and I think we are actually making progress.

And later:

Then there is your breath-taking assertion that my position is the same as Jared Taylor’s and that it amounts to the view that whites are genetically programmed for self-destruction. One form of lying is to present hunches or hypotheses as facts. You do that all the time (while being hair triggered with charges of intellectual dishonesty). In fact, I do not believe that whites are genetically programmed for self-destruction. I daresay you have not inquired about my views on these matters at all, so you are in no position to summarize them or equate them with Taylor’s views. So why do you say things that you cannot know to be true as if you have knowledge? Why can’t you just deal with the issues?

As far as I have seen, you have never squarely taken on the question of white vulnerability. You just evade it, attack straw men, and resort to insults. That is a sign of intellectual weakness, not strength.

I guess it is some consolation to me that I end in good company: along with Kevin MacDonald and Wilmot Robertson, I have been weighed and found wanting in intellectual honesty and rigor by the Great Tanstaafl.

And later:

Tan, you have spent far too much time trolling the internet. You are good at it, and therein lies the problem. Because trolling and grandstanding before imagined audiences of adoring dullards is too low a bar. You don’t have the logical tools or patience or ethical commitment needed to get to the truth. You just have simplistic talking/trolling points, which you defend with sophistries. It isn’t good enough.

And finally:

Why do I argue with you, Tan? Because ideas have consequences, and bad ideas have bad consequences. Beyond that, it is important for me to understand the many perverse and self-defeating mindsets that handicap our side, and you and your amen corner here are an interesting study.

(Of Tan’s responses I’ll include only his phrase: “You should go now. You’ve got a war on White catladies to fight.” Greg’s last, sardonic comment was: “OK Tan, I quit. For what it is worth, you are the smartest guy in this room.” See also my article “On Carolyn and Tan.”)

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Update of December 2015

At The Right Stuff Johnson commented:

My point is that Tanstaafl is quite open about harming his own ethnic genetic interests [he places the ethnostate above his children and half-Jew wife] because of his commitment to the ideology of White Nationalism, but he is dismissive of the idea that other white people might have any innate propensity to this kind of behavior, i.e., sacrificing their children on the altar of ideology. He seems to want to hold that Jews are either forcing such behavior upon us, or bribing our leaders to force it upon us. But he thinks the idea that ordinary white people might have a pre-existing propensity to this sort of behavior is just a plot to blame whitey and excuse the Jews.

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Update of 2016

Greg has replied to a comment by Andrew Anglin thus:

Kevin MacDonald published his four path-breaking volumes on the Jewish question and started The Occidental Observer. During that same period, The Occidental Quarterly was founded, which has published MacDonald for years and is now under his editorship. Thus whatever occult power of suppressing discussion of the JQ that you suppose he wields, it clearly was not operative then. So what has changed? Has MacDonald stopped writing about the Jews? A quick look at TOO shows this is not the case. The only thing that has changed is that MacDonald’s theoretical work now focuses on whites. What has made us so susceptible to Jewish manipulation and takeover? Good questions that you think we would want to answer, in order to inoculate ourselves against Jewish subversion.

Unfortunately, a couple of paranoid cranks, Tanstaafl of Age of Treason, and Raven Gatto, who is primarily a Facebook presence, have been promoting the truly nutty idea that MacDonald has now stopped blaming the Jews and is now blaming whites (as if both parties cannot play a role in the current mess), and that MacDonald’s shift in emphasis is due to the evil influences of people like Paul Gottfried, Colin Liddell, and little old me. These paranoid notions are carried into your discussion forum by memetic plague rats such as Cledun (a guy who bats 1000 in picking literally insane mentors), and I think your own thinking has been infected as well.

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Update of 30 July 2017:

The Great Tanstaafl said today: “Chechar is in essence a psychoanalyst. My guess is it’s because he’s a crypto” in the comments section of his today’s post “The White Race and its Discontents” (which I won’t link here).

Just imagine my dear readers: I have published two thick autobiographical books in Spanish, that I started in 1988. Anybody that knows my family in Mexico City knows that my ancestry is 100% Catholic for generations on both sides.

For the record I have written a whole book in Spanish debunking psychiatry and psychoanalysis. But Tan labels me once more “in essence a psychoanalyst.”

Final thoughts

Tan and the commenters at Age of Treason are trapped in a monological belief system: a system in which white decline is only caused by Jews no matter what information they get. This group commits “the fundamental attribution error”: a tendency to assign a mono-cause to a problem rather than focusing on the context—situational causes that are harder to grasp. (Conspiracy theorists do exactly the same with their minds.)

Their methodology also exemplifies “conformation bias”. Tan and his amen crowd simply ignore evidence contrary to their pet theory. They are so overwhelmed by their POV that sometimes these guys even interpret an attack on their research model as an attack on themselves.

With such a quack mentality civil discussion with real doctors who want to solve the JP is impossible.